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UFOs - The Changing Narrative (EDIT)

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If you're dismissive of UFOs, if you 'don't believe in them' because of all the craziness surrounding them, then it's looking like that's an outdated idea you might have to revise. It seems likely we're in the beginnings of a culture shift regarding non-human activity on Earth; it's not just the crazed rantings of conspiracy theorists anymore. If you're sceptical, then I really want you to watch this video that summarises what's been going on with the topic regarding military disclosures in the mainstream media over the past couple of years. Not conspiracies and endless convoluted speculation, but actual unequivocal official announcements and policy changes.

Here's a video. It's a few months old, so more's happened since then (including what I touched on in ∞ the other post about this ∞ recently), but it covered some things I wasn't aware of but which I think everyone should be aware of.



Essentially, powerful US military people are saying on mainstream television that UFOs are out there, and that they're taking the topic seriously.

It's interesting how incredulous the newscasters are though, barely stifling laughs that they're even covering this.

Based on what the credible witnesses consistently describe, they're craft capable of physical movements beyond our understanding of physics, and they show deliberate awareness of and behavioural changes around military craft, even actively jamming their sensors and/or weapons systems, which suggests they're intelligent, but of non-human design.

I mentioned in the other post that Tom DeLonge, of Blink-182 fame, is apparently heading some strange company thing called "To The Stars Academy", which aims to get the truth about this out via mixed media. In the Joe Rogan podcast with him, he came across as twitchy and unhinged, like the kind of typical believes-anything UFO nut that makes the whole topic one for mockery. Rogan did mock him during the interview, and said, aside, "I'm not buying it".

∞ Apparently his company has signed a deal with the US government to help them reverse-engineer alien tech they've purportedly collected ∞. A quote from that article:



Bizarre.



There are a couple of nonsensical leaps that I can imagine being easily made in response to this.

One is "right, so you're saying there are little grey men with big black eyes flying around in flying saucers and that everyone who claims to have met one is right?". I hope you can see the lack of logic in that leap.

The US government has announced that it's taking UFOs seriously, and they're making it easier for their pilots etc to report encounters when they happen, because they might be a security threat. That doesn't mean that they're beamships full of greys from Zeta Reticuli zooming around probing people. Why on Earth would it? They could be made by the merpeople of Atlantis or a race of hyper-intelligent robotic dinosaurs in the core of the Earth for all we know; just because UFOs are out there doesn't say anything about any of the veracity of the rest of the associated lore.

A convoluted and bizarre mythology has built up around the UFO phenomenon over the decades, and the oddness of it all makes the majority who pride themselves on their sanity dismissive of the whole thing. And not wrongly; there's a lot of really fantastical stuff that can't possibly be anything other than delusion or hoaxes. But the existence of the mythology doesn't mean it was never formed from an initial seed of truth.

Just as our bodies are made of propagating genes, our minds are made up of propagating memes (in the sense that Richard Dawkins meant when he coined the term, as ideas that spread between minds). Like genes, memes can undergo mutations, they spread and they evolve and what you end up with might be very different to what you had at the start, like a grand game of Chinese Whispers.

So there's been a whole lot of invention to fill in gaps in understanding, much of it from people who are very likely mentally ill, who are unscrupulous hoaxers, or who 'want to believe' and value that over actual factual accuracy. That's undeniable.

But the facts and their interpretation aren't exactly connected. Just because the interpretation is bizarre and wrong doesn't mean the facts can be thrown out too, and just because the facts are indeed facts says nothing about the veracity of the interpretations.

The fact is that there are "Unidentified Aerial Vehicles" with movement capabilities beyond what we as humans have achieved interacting with the Earth; they're reported often, and they're not (always) ignorant misinterpretations. Beyond that, nobody can say what they are or why they're here.

(Whether the big evil secret government knows and is hiding it is another matter that I have no opinion about either way at this point. Some of the Nimitz witnesses - but not all of them - spoke of strange airmen confiscating their recordings, and the US government used to say there are no UFOs and now it's changed its mind. But the actual military staff don't seem to know what's going on with them, and are concerned they might be a security threat.)

Similarly, another angle might be "people believe all kinds of crazy things like that the Earth is flat or they get Christmas cards from Bigfoot every year, and since they're nonsense, this is too". Again, I hope you can see the lack of logic in that kind of leap. Yes, people believe a whole lot of rubbish, but to dismiss everything else by association is... likely some kind of fallacy that I don't know the name of off the top of my head.



I also want to mention capital-S 'Sceptics' briefly (or I suppose 'skeptics' - the US spelling - is the more common one online). Debunkers. The sorts of people who pride themselves on their analytical, logical, no-nonsense analysis that always happens to lead them to the position they knew from the start was correct. These are the people who are convinced that their current worldview is essentially accurate, and that anything that seems to clash with their interpretation must be wrong.

Most of the time, they're right, and we should keep a healthy level of scepticism about anything that seems to defy our current understanding. But as I've said before, it's a spectrum, and I think the ones who are at the extreme sceptical end are as bad as the ones who are so 'open-minded' they believe there are fairies at the bottom of their garden. Both of them are inclined to ignore information they don't like if it clashes with the story they'd prefer to be true (though this is true of all of us, really, as it's just the nature of belief; I'm no exception).

In the previous post about this, Tama linked to one of these debunking takes on the Nimitz Encounter that I described in that post. I can see the allure of that kind of thing, because it's relieving to know your world needn't be shaken by something you don't yet understand, but his (Mick West's) attempt just seemed so feeble when weighed against the support from the other side. For example, he suggested that the 'tic tac' UFO could be a plane, because he was able to rotate an image of a plane such that it resembled the shape seen in a static frame of the video. Case solved! Except for the fact that this 'plane' was hanging static in the air for a long time, there were no signs of propulsion, there was a whole horde of them there for a couple of weeks, they were being tracked by then-state-of-the-art military radar equipment and couldn't be identified like aircraft can be, at the end of the video it darts off to the left at a high speed, the whole lot of them were able to dart instantly between sea level and 80,000 feet in an instant, thousands of trained military people witnessed this, some pilots saw it with their own eyes and actively engaged it, etc, etc...

In the video I linked to, one military guy says that these military people - the ones who swear they saw something beyond any technology they've seen before - are trusted to fight wars, to carry volatile weaponry over cities. An enormous amount of trust is placed in their expertise, their scrupulousness, their competence. But they - all of them - saw a random plane or a small bird out in restricted airspace and thought it was a UFO?

Often these Sceptic types invoke Occam's Razor, as the number of ridiculous assumptions that need to be made for most accounts to be true is too many for them to be possibly true. In cases like this, the number of assumptions that need to be made for it not to be a UFO outweigh the alternatives, which suggests to me that the military personnel saw exactly what they claimed to have seen.

For the debunkers' armchair analyses to be right, an awful lot of trained military personnel - who were direct witnesses - need to be wrong.

But again, that says nothing about all the associated mythology, which is almost entirely bunk.



One thing I wonder is why they aren't being detected by satellites, astronomers, etc. Or maybe they are and it's all being held secret???!?!?! I couldn't say. But if they're millions of years beyond us in technology and want to keep hidden, they probably can achieve that. But then why were they detected by these military people?

All of this would be speculation, and we couldn't arrive at anything other than guesses. But these holes in our understanding don't invalidate what has been seen and reported by so many credible witnesses.



If you're dismissing this entirely - or not even bothering to look into it because of what you already 'know' - then I think you're doing yourself a disservice. It's not a case of "the gubment knows and they're hiding it from us!!", or a bunch of "possibly but who knows" dubious anecdotes from decades ago. Now it's "the government knows they're there - and they've said so, and provided proof - but not what they are". The situation is different now, and I'm shocked I've only been learning about this over the past few weeks. I suppose most people still just laugh it off, above being tricked by such twaddle as they are, which is such a shame because it's completely world-changing if taken seriously.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out over the next few years; the world might change quite drastically.

I'm presenting this because I think it could be interesting to be a part of it as things progress, but if it's not important to you either way, then that's fair enough. It probably won't actively affect your lives any time soon. I'm just curious to see how the story progresses.



EDIT: Weirdly relevant (less than a minute long) video: