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The Imminent Event?!?
4 years ago853 words
Will the existence of an alien civilisation be revealed in July of this year?!?



∞ The post I wrote about Bob Lazar a few days ago ∞ got mostly dismissive comments, but significantly more views than my other recent posts, so this topic is apparently engaging to some people in some way (even if they're just laughing at me for being so delusional). So I'm talking about it again!

∞ The US news broadcast 60 Minutes just ran a serious segment about the UFO - or UAP, as they're calling it these days - phenomenon, and government reveals and concerns regarding it ∞; the latest in a series of mainstream not-mocking acknowledgement that people in the UFO community are considering - or at least hoping - to be a gradual disclosure.

Because of the buzz, I've recently been checking Reddit's r/UFOs community - along with a large influx of others, or so threads there have remarked - which is quite a rabbit hole.

∞ This post ∞ wonders why this disclosure might be happening now. The top comment mentions a comment someone made 7 years ago claiming that aliens would make contact in July 2021.

∞ The mentioned comment itself is an interesting read ∞. The author claims to be a regular abductee, who was first taken aged 12 in 1987, then "every two years" (mostly) since then. They say. They also say:

They will make contact with Earth on a wide scale in 2021. That's the year when they'll land here, or colonize, or whatever. I'm not exactly sure what their plan is.

...

The whole "program" or whatever they call it is going to change in July, 2021. I think they said 8th, but it could also have been 18th


Apparently the US government is going to make some announcement or something about everything it knows about the UFO/UAP phenomenon, by the end of next month. Could it be because of this?!?

Another link took me to ∞ a subreddit called r/TrueHistoryOfEarth ∞, set up 7 years ago - around the same time as that other comment - but with only one enigmatic post, from 20 days ago, which claims it'll update after The Event that'll cause a fundamental shift in our understanding of reality.

HOW EXICITING!!

The post mentions The Aquatics, the first intelligent species, which some comments elaborate on. Some say maybe the aliens want to invite one of the sea species into some galactic Union (wasn't that the plot of a Star Trek film?), or that an ocean species like dolphins or octopuses is due some initial contact of the sort homo sapiens once got back during the stone age. Others mention that there's another intelligent species who's been living here in the depths of the sea all along; maybe they're even the grey aliens people report, and that's why they look so much like us rather than something bizarrely alien?



Interesting stuff, but do I think it's true?

Does that actually matter?

If you're the sort of person who responds to stuff like this with the urge to dismiss and debunk it, then I assume and hope that you get some pleasure out of knowing how clever you are and how you aren't going to be fooled by nonsense. Yay for you, you're not a gullible fool.

But personally, I love entertaining the idea of things like this. It's fun! Do I think there'll be some paradigm-shifting Event in July, and that we'll be watching interviews with Aquatic greys on the news and rethinking our whole reality? I'm not exactly going to sell all my possessions and spend the next few weeks meditating in front of a grey alien poster hoping they'll sense my psychic presence and choose to take me onto their spaceships for a better life.

But I probably will occasionally check r/UFOs during my breaks because the thought that something might happen, and the excitement I see others feeling about the possibility, is entertaining to me. I get way more pleasure out of wondering 'what if?!' than I do about patting myself on the back about seeing through the lies.

As long as beliefs like this don't lead to disruptive action that harms the believer or others, I see no issue with indulging in them. It's kind of like a story that ostensibly overlaps with reality, and the interest comes from the narrative more than any hard facts.

All the outlandish stuff aside, the government announcement in the next month or so does seem to be something that's going to happen, so I'll be curious to see what that's about if nothing else! (Probably just some blurry photos or anecdotes to add to the pile, but WE CAN HOPE.)

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Astreon152~4Y
I wonder if the Covid is the alien's doing ? Or maybe, on the contrary, they planned their contact in 2021 to come as saviors.

Anyway, what might they think of your games ? I mean, in Mardek there was a saucer cult, and the magi were technically aliens. In the current game, Savitr is something close to an alien too ?

Who knows, maybe the first contact will be through sound, like in "Close encounters of the 3rd Kind", and Sindrel Song will prove crucial in interacting with them !

So then, your games are maybe weeks close to becoming the next hottest thing in the galaxy !!
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Tobias 1115~4Y
Responding to this with debunking is one thing, but making fun of me specifically for it is just cruel...
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AdmiralLara49~4Y
Now i see why he thinks about aliens so much... his best hope for a market for Atonal Dreams!
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Wolf21~4Y
I think the concept is interesting, but it's hard to consider it *really* seriously considering the scale and the technological requirements for exploring the universe. In my mind the real question would be, "what reason would an advanced species with interstellar travel have for making contact with us at all?"

Such advanced civilisations would have no need for bipedal slaves when they could presumably make automatons far stronger and more capable than us. Earth itself is not truly unique when you consider our search for similar planets of size, composition and placement inside the solar system. The universe is vast, and such advanced species might even be capable of truly advanced engineering like Dyson Spheres or Matroska Brains, ring worlds and the like. Personally, I struggle with a reason for any species to make contact at all - but that's also probably the pessimism in me as well (e.g. a species seeking to 'save' us from ourselves also seems implausible to me).

The Fermi paradox is a great hyper-logical approach to considering the possibility / probability of alien life, and the Great Filter theory and responses are truly interesting concepts to think about. Maybe there's a galactic senate that has ruled that there can be no interaction can be had with species who hasn't developed certain technologies or mass produced something with certain requirements (like the scale of semiconductor manufacturing processes reaching 3nm or some arbitrary thing like that).

In any case, it's not *impossible*. As an agnostic I'm open (but not convinced) of the very slim possibilities of a lot of far fetched concepts, but the grounded realist in me struggles to conceptualise why such an interaction would ever happen. I find it more likely that a Douglas Adams- esque interaction of "We're blowing up your planet (and presumably solar system) for an interstellar highway" more likely than any beneficial interaction with a species capable of interstellar travel and completely evading any form of detection in our observable universe.

So, if it is real, I worry about the future for all of us, even more than I already worry about such things!
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Tobias 1115~4Y
Why do we study chimpanzees or mushrooms, or climb mountains?

We've only seriously been on the technological track for the blink of an eye; computers and smartphones weren't a thing in our parents' childhoods. So when we imagine travelling between the stars, it shouldn't be in something we could build with nuts and bolts right now. Chances are there's some technology - some understanding of physics or the nature of reality - that'd trivialise interstellar distances that's as unknown to us now as the internet was to the Aztecs.

And if travel is trivial, then why wouldn't other civilisations keep tabs on the apparently not-super-common worlds that have some kind of life on them? Doesn't mean we're anything special; could just be Earth's in a long list of 'developing worlds' that others keep an eye on.
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purplerabbits148~4Y
Again sorry for putting a damper on the previous post.

Now the one where the US government releasing a UFO image has more weight as proof because there's a lot of technology behind closed doors of the government. Even though not everything gets equal investigation, I would at least hope an investigation was had for that image.

I wonder what you think aliens would be like. I personally don't have an image of what aliens look like, but I am pretty sure that the aliens would have to be a social species. In order to build the technology for space travel, the aliens would need to be able to work together over a long period of time in order to build upon past discoveries.

I am not 100% sire if the aliens would have gone so far as to be collectively become a hive-mind with only a single thought. But I think that it is likely that they would have a form of basic hivemind in order to communicate. Did you know technically humans do have a hive mind? It's called the internet. You know how people see ants as a collective hivemind? Well, the ants still are individuals, but work together as a whole group. They kind of have an ant democracy where one ant starts an action and other choose to undo that action, or continue that action. Once a threshold of ants that have comited to the action, then the whole colony colectively commits to that action. I'd be pretty cool to see whether the aliens would be more like ants or humans in terms of communication and working together.

Have you seen the movie Arrival? I would say that movie accurately captures the difficulty that would be with trying to interact decipher the language of the aliens. Furthermore I love the design of the aliens because it feels like something that evolved in a very different conditions. I personally don't like how so many alien designs in media are bipedal. Because aliens evolved in very different conditions than we did on Earth, I would expect very different base body shapes to have evolved.

What kind of aliens do you hope are out there? To me, there are about 5 main categories the Aliens for War of the Worlds/Independance Day, aliens from Arrival, Aliens from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the aliens and Engineers from the Alien movie franchise, and aliens from Contact.

The aliens from Contact are the ones that are hidden until Humans have reach a threshold to allow humanity into the galactic council. They are hidden to allow for humanity to develop its own identity without interference. This case helps explain why Aliens have been every elusive and difficult to prove. So, the rare cases of UFO sightings could be the aliens popping in for a check up on Earth's progress.

The Aliens for Arrival are ones that are friendly towards humans because they can gain something in return for humanities help. I personally want this one to be the case because it has the least amount of risk to humanity and that it is the best scientifically accurate with how difficult it will be to try and communicate with aliens. Furthermore, it also has the benefit of showing just how hard ot would be for aliens and humans to find each other. with two different species finding each other in the vastness of space us an astronomically low chance. If they do come across each other, there are so many variables that make them different that is a Herculean task to communicate.
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purplerabbits148~4Y
Continuing since it seems I reached the word limit for a post o-o

For Aliens from Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy, I take note that in the beginning of the book, Frank mentions that some teenager aliens would have joyrides abducting humans and putting them through the classic alien abduction senario, then just dump the humans back all the while laughing. This specific moment is the aliens pulling pranks. Many types of social creatures pull pranks, for example Chimpanzees and Gorillas in zoos have pulled pranks on each other and humans. Humans pull pranks on each other and other animals. So it could be argued that aliens could pull the whole abduction thing as a prank because that's a thing social creatures do. Aside from the silliness that point brings, the whole book has a wide variety of differnt types of aliens and has robots as part of the possible types of aliens out there. And inspite of the book being a comedy, there are moments where theres logical question to arise from the situations. For example, one planet has has the crazy thing of needing to have a mass recipt if you poop because of the tourism leading to a loss of resouces for the whole planet. The premise is absurd, but there are real ramifications of loss of mass from planets. We can see the small scale result of that in tourist towns with tourist taking the local rocks and fauna as souvenirs so it'll be even more of a problem of a tourism planet. So inspite of the clear comedy from the book, there are points that it shows just how diverse alien life can be.

For the Tripod aliens from War of the Worlds, this case is probably on the realisticly terrifying side. I am not refering to how those aliens were destroyed by an Earth borne disease. (The cold co-evolved with humanity so unless the same coevolution happened with the aliens, that plot is moot) No, what is terrifying is that those aliens are after resouces and they do not care how they get it. Humanity as a social species already does those things. Take the UK and imperialism for one. Chimpanzees will raid other clans for females and resources. So with my belief that interstellar aliens are a social species, the case for alien invasion for resources has a pretty high probability. Those rare spottings of UFO's scouts are for how to best take on the native life with the lease amount of effort.

Now for the Engineers and Aliens from the Alien movies. This one I am not a fan of because the lore has it that the Engineers are the proprietors of humanity. I personally like that humans have done things all on their own inspite of all the things just on Earth that could lead to our extinction. Humans are freaking awesome for getting into space in a span of 200,000 years. The Engineers as proprietors for life on Earth feels more like we are the experiments by aliens and the ocasional UFO sighting are from the Engineers checking up on their experiment. I may not like this case for alien life, but it does hold one thing that most accepted as true: life propegates life. Now there has been experiments of making the earliest lipid membranes ,(the cell membrane) with non organic materials. Though the results have not been fully accepted because one of the materials came from a dog and that throws the experiment off, even though non organic matter technically is still inorganic enen after getting in contact with organic matter.

Now for the actual aliens from the movie Alien. This case is the reverse, where humans are the ones to make first contact with the aliens. (I'm basing this just off the first movie for the sake of argument. Later entries made the alien as an artificial creation and made it more lame in my opinion.) So for the alien, it is an apex predator that humanity found. We can see that is is more solitary than the other aliens, so would that mean that my theory is wrong about aliens needing to be social? No because parasites are the exeption to the rule. With the way how The Alien reproduces, it employes a facehugger to latch onto a host. That host would suffer as a result of the face hugger turning into a chest burster. Now scientifically that works out, because humans are new to the parasite. For normal parasites, they do their best to not kill the host because a dead host means that the parasite needs to find another to keep reproducing, but there is no guarantee tk find another. With a new parasite to host interaction, the new host suffers because the parasite was supposed to find a different host that it coevolved with for a mutual benefit. Now the Alien is slightly different for becoming independant after exiting the host quite violently, but that's the beauty of alien biology, who knows if the original host species was able to survive that and they depended on each other. Speaking of original host, the way how the Alien has such a complex reproductive lifesycle that involves parasitiam, that means that there is proof of other alien life. Parasitism by definition requires two species. So that opened up the whole world of the Alien franchise, but they went the lame way of having humanity and the Alien be artificial creations. That's why this is not my favorite theory. The bioligy for how things evolved insependently is very fasinating, but the second artifical help is applied it really closes the world building of the series.

This may sound like a tangent, but I promise it does relate back to the Alien. Cuckoos are well know brood parasites. They lay their eggs in the nest of unsuspecting birds and rely on them to take care of their young. Well, evolution has it so that the host birds develop their ability to differentiate which is their eggs and which are a fake. And so in responce, the Cuckoo evolve their eggs to better blend in with the host egg. Its an evolutionary arms race. Well as the cuckoo spreads it's range of habitation, there will be signs in the other birds that they have encountered the cuckoo. There are birds that are very viligant in telling which is their eggs and which is not their egg. However in modern day, the cuckoo does not parisitize their nests at all, so why would those birds have such a keen eye for differentiating real and fake eggs? Because those birds won the arms race with the cuckoo. Eventhough cuckoos no longer parasite those nests, those birds still carry on the ability to differentiate real and fake eggs because they were forced to evolve to combat the cuckoos.

Now relating this back to the Alien, the Alien is a case where they have won the evolutionary arms race against their host species. And so the Aliens carry their adaptations from surviving their previous host species and adaptability to new ones. Now, here's an interesting point, why would I mention coevolution of a host species earlier, but say that the Alien won it's evolutionary arms race now? Well because both cases could be true. If the Alien chest bursting resulted from incompatible biology, then that explains why humans have it so rough with the Alien because we are not supposed to be the host. The original host species could have out adapted the Alien and won, so the Alien has to now find a new host. So there could be another alien species out there that has perfectly adapted to fighting the Alien.

But the second explanation works too because of the stasis of the Alien eggs for long periods of time. If the Alien won the arms race with many other alien species then they would need to adapt to needing to wait for the next host species to evolve and meet it. So that's where the eggs come in. Those Alien eggs are adapted to staying around until a sutible host evolved enough to find them and that's how the Alien propagates as a species by taking advantage of other alien specie's social tendency of not wanting their own to die. BUT NOOOOO we don't get cool stuff like this in sequel movies because the Engineers made humans and the Alien. Natural evolution has cooler stuff than artificial evolution

I hope that this is more in line with what you would like to explore in terms of aliens and alien life. Probably more a tangent to the Government anouncing info about aliens. But I really like when science can be used to prove interesting cases. Like for example, Interstellar gave us a theoretical look at what a black hole would look like and the real life picture, in low definition, does resemble the theoretical image they created for the movie. For me I would love to prove aliens exist, and theoretically there are cases which it can be true. Real life is stranger than fiction, so using science actually would stregthen the existance of aliens if there's enough evidence.
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Tobias 1115~4Y
I've always been annoyed by how boringly humanoid aliens in films and supposed encounters are! We all know the greys, but the other most common aliens in ufology are reptilian aliens, Nordic aliens, and 'tall whites', with the latter two literally just being humans but a bit taller. How unimaginative!

When I was little, I drew a lot of aliens, and I always made a point of making them different to humans because I was so annoyed by that. The weirder, the better! The lingon things I've posted a bunch of times were an example of this, though in hinsight they're more human than I'd like in general frame.

I thought the aliens in Arrival were a rare gem among all the annoying generic-monster-people that are used as aliens in much media!

I've heard theories about how the humanoid form is analogous to a soap bubble: it's the ideal form that just naturally develops every time. Or some people claim that the aliens are humans from the future, or they're Aquatics from Earth who live under the ocean, or whatever.

Some people speculate that the aliens people report meeting - specifically the greys - are actually robots, of a sort. Constructs. Maybe they've been designed after us on purpose, for whatever reason. Or maybe they're the gods that made us in their image and the Bible was right about that, kind of.

UFOs are often seen around military bases; the recent 60 minutes thing I linked to in this post involved some military guys speculating that they're essentially monitoring whether or not we're a threat. Could be that.

If they wanted to destroy or enslave us or something terrible though, they probably would have done by now. But they're probably as interested in that as we are in enslaving ants. Most people ignore ants, though a few devote their lives to studying them. Doesn't mean all of humanity cares about ants.
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purplerabbits148~4Y
Oh yeah, I remember the Lingon! The ones that communicate with the eyes colours. That's a cool one for me because it is perfectly possible that aliens communicate via colours. We already have both land (chameleons) and aquatic (cuttlefish and octopuses) animals that have a form of communicating via colours. Yes the colour changing can be used for camouflage, but the primary use is to communicate amongst their species. So it's reasonable that if multiple creatures in really different environments do communicate via colour then it stands to reason that aliens can evolve a way to communicate in the same way.

It's a shame that too many alien designs are limited to bipeds because humans in makeup are the cheapest form of making someone an "alien". I'm looking at you Star Trek and Star Wars. >_>

So videogames are great in that they don't need a human in costume to mimic the movements of a creature. Subnautica does an amazing job with the life for their alien ocean. The one biped is the human player, so everything else is great with their variety of body shapes, behaviors, and sizes of creatures, landscapes, and plants. I'm not sure if you'll want to play Subnautica, because it's a game of survival with giant creatures, but the game does amazing with how they did their swimming physics, animated the creature , and created such diverse biology for their world.

Also in near the end game and DLC there are [spoiler] characters that also aligns with my hypothesis that aliens would have to be social creatures in order to be advanced enough to travel into space.
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Tama_Yoshi82~4Y
I've found that my relationship with "THE TRUTH" (and also debunking things) have changed as I understood more of complex topics, like geopolitics, competing political frameworks, economics (and competing economic frameworks, and enterprise management in general).

It's definitely not fun to realize that there are good arguments against the position you found very compelling in the first place. I don't think we're alike in our current relationship with "THE TRUTH"; I'm very... odd? Unusual? I don't hold on to my positions, until I do. Here's how I imagine a lot of my current conversations would sound like:

"So, [QUESTION]?"
"Well, someone who adheres to X view would say A, but someone who adheres to Y view would say B."
"But what's the answer to [QUESTION]...?"
"It depends the framework you pick. Do you want me to list the counter-arguments leveled between X and Y?"
"Nooooooooooooooooooooo"

And that probably sounds incredibly dull to some people; having no pretense over anything and always signifying at competing frameworks that seem irreconcilable, but are somehow both compelling.

Since I'm a writer, I find great use in wielding conflicting worldviews, and extracting interesting (but paradoxical) perspectives from them. It tells compelling stories (I find) that are more thought-provoking. Incidentally, at the core of the spiritual lore of my series is a sort of reworked Christianity. It's essentially borne from philosophical disagreements I have with Christianity, like "No, God wouldn't be like this. No he wouldn't do this. No, souls wouldn't work like that. No, hard-line atheists are wrong here too! Here's how it would work. There. That's even more compelling now!"

That doesn't mean I never take issue with anything (QAnon is the biggest conspiracy nowadays, and it's VERY destructive. There are also a ton of conspiracies that are *ahem* buckwild). I believe there exists aliens out there, I've already stated my position on this. Alien conspiracies appear far more benign compared to others (at least, when it doesn't lead to military officers using the existence of aliens as an argument to not disclose the nature of their conflict with China, (because China knows, and they know, but the public is not ready!!!)).
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Tobias 1115~4Y
I used to be a FERVENT INTERNET ATHEIST back in the Fig Hunter days because I felt that religion was doing harm to people, so convincing people of its faults would help them... which was naive.

These days I just try to stay out of the whole belief coliseum because we're just not psychologically inclined to change our beliefs by being told we're wrong by others. Plus it's just stressful.

But the aliens thing does seem benign; I'd even say that unlike many of the other more harmful beliefs, there's no actual enemy (unless you count 'The Gubment' hiding stuff as such), so it's more about excitedly trying to solve a mystery than it is dehumanising another group. It's more about wondering whether something external will happen without our input, rather than what we can do to force change on the world through direct action. Or at least that's my attitude towards it, and it's why I find it fun and would rather indulge in it even when it gets silly than just disregard it all.
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septet8~4Y
i think this idea of staying open-minded makes a lot more sense when applied to moral arguments, not the truth. different worldviews shouldn't ever be totally or even mostly irreconcilable, there is a lot of common ground that can be clarified. even if some of the content is untrue, it's likely to exist for a good and true reason. i think people mostly disagree on what the right thing to do is and use a biased interpretation of a common truth to justify it. i noticed a lot of people thinking i'm trying to prescribe action when i say something i think is true because they're so used to others doing that. i think you could benefit from making this distinction
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Astreon152~4Y
Er, I'm really sorry if you took it that way. Though it was intended to be humorous, it was actually first-degree humour, and there was no debunking at all...

I genuinely wondered how aliens might perceive your games if they were to play them. I mean, why wouldn't they have gamers too ?

Also, wouldn't it be some form of sweet victory if their taste fully matched yours ?

Maybe you and I are just too different, but I'd be exciting at the thought of knowing how my creations might fare when the market gets extended outside the boundaries of earth.
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Tobias 1115~4Y
I suppose I just see my games as trivial and irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, so the idea of something as big of a deal as aliens taking the slightest interest only registered as a cruel joke.

I do wonder though whether other intelligent races would have similar ideas of art as we do. But then again I wonder if cats can look at pictures we draw of cats and understand that they are supposed to be them! Maybe their brains - and alien brains - work so differently that what's interesting to us is nonsense to them, or vice versa.

Wouldn't it be interesting if aliens did make contact on a wide scale, and in a few years even us commoners had alien 'pen pals' we regularly talked with? Something I hadn't actually even thought about before...
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Astreon152~4Y
Unfortunately, i think pen pals are already obsolete with our level of technology (youngsters don't even right mails these days, let alone real letters).

But being a foreign exchange student would probably be mind blowing.

Or we could discover that life issues are basically the same across all universes :)
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