I've got several things to show this week! Mostly related to navigating dungeons. Also, a summary of the stuff I still need to do.
This was looking like it was going to be another productive week - I did a lot between Monday and Thursday - but today (Friday), annoying stuff got in the way and I've spent most of the day in a frustratingly unproductive slump. Bleh. So I thought I might as well write this today so the day's not been a complete waste!
I'll talk about what I've done this week here, but I also want to list the major things I still need to do before I can do the next playtest. It feels close, but the amount of stuff still on my To Do List is fairly daunting - especially when something I think will take half an hour ends up taking like four - so who knows! I'm game-devving as fast as I can!
Most of the stuff I've done this week has a visual aspect, so let's go through them with screenshots:
I finished the layout of the Sprouting Isle area. This only took two or three hours thanks to my custom map editor, so once all the general mechanics stuff is in order, making the later dungeons shouldn't be too time-consuming. Hopefully.
Out of curiosity about how it'd look, I just took a screenshot of each of the rooms and stitched them together into this somewhat disorienting thing (since the camera angles for each room don't line up as a whole):
You'd never see it from a distance like that in the game, just as you never would with retro-style Zelda dungeons. I'm just sharing it here for the sake of interest!
There's also this mildly interesting aerial shot in Unity's Scene view that I inadvertently got while taking the others:
The obnoxious visual bug with the ocean probably has something to do with whatever's causing these darker patches at regular intervals, hmm...
It's very grid-like and artificial-looking, but I don't mind that. Many rooms also need more decoration, or there are minor tiling issues (eg the tall cliff on the left of the room with Pierce isn't continued into the room to the west); that's on my list!
While designing it, I thought about how Pierce - who you encounter in the room second from the left at the bottom - should make a beeline for the monastery directly north of that, but you have to take a more convoluted path around various obstacles he's blocked the path with. At first I imagined they'd be wooden bridges he'd have cut the ropes of, or something - or maybe even something stupid like he'd dropped an ice cream cone, and you didn't want to step over the line of tiny ants around it - but eventually I decided on something I could get use out of in future dungeons too:
I was inspired to some degree by the switches in MARDEK that toggled coloured crystals on or off. I considered replicating them in this as a callback - and because having barriers that can double as walls and platforms seemed useful - but after some experimentation I preferred the idea of these 3-tile-wide barriers of coloured magical flames, which I feel are more visually striking.
Originally the plan was to have them toggleable with switches, but there wouldn't really be any reason to turn them back on again, and I couldn't be bothered making a switch object, so that actually led to what I feel is a better solution.
A while back, I added 'maelstrom' things, swirling dark vortices that played the role of boss battles. They'd add a particle effect and different lighting to the battle arena, and each one would have several waves of foes that'd have to be fought through back to back, encouraging you to tame a team at the start to face the rest.
I made use of a revision of that idea here. Now, certain monsters are surrounded by a fiery aura tied to one of the six elements. When battling them, their arena is coloured according to that element, and wreathed in appropriately-coloured flames. This also boosts the power of skills of that element - or the element strong against it (so both Creation and Destruction are empowered in a Creation arena like this one) - while reducing the power of the element it's strong against (Sorrow, in that case).
Like I intended for maelstroms, these elemental arena battles would also have several waves, and as such would essentially serve as mini-bosses.
Clearing one of these elemental monsters would extinguish the flame barrier of that element for that dungeon. I think it works quite nicely!
I also finished off the minimap that I mentioned last week, which you can see in the corner here:
I also added functionality for this mausoleum model to have an eye and flames of every element! (Previously it was only Courage.)
In this small form, the map would be encircled (ensquared?) by a magenta bar that represents 'the amount of evil left in the area', or something. Rooms are also filled with this colour if there are battles left to defeat or treasure left to collect. The number at the top shows the total number of battles and treasure remaining, and the encircling bar thing reduces as you clear the area.
You can also press a button to expand the map, which shows these diamond icons that show which battles or treasure are cleared:
I feel that a line of coloured icons like this conveys the information better than a number or a bar, but mileage may vary.
The map is meant to look reminiscent of one of those ancient maps that I think were made out of cloth? You know what I mean, an archetypical 'treasure map' kind of thing. So it's brown and opaque. I can see people complaining about an omnipresent opaque UI element, but I arrived at this after experimenting with various levels of transparency, including this:
Black and white are widely used in modern game UIs because they're neutral, mature, cool, and work with any background colours, but I felt that my attempt here was too acrid and unpleasant, that it clashed with the rest of the game's aesthetics. I greatly prefer the brown one... for now, at least.
I revised the Lore section, which honestly I'd forgotten was even a thing in the game! Previously it had a bookshelf layout:
But I knew people would complain about the vertical text on the book spines - I didn't like them either - so I felt this would be clearer:
This maybe temporary description is referencing the surprisingly horrific details in several Pokedex entries, in case that's not obvious.
People and monsters are clumped together under elemental categories, which I think will work okay; there aren't going to be many human characters in the game.
I used to have these 'skill log entry' things, which you could summon up by holding a button down to get an idea about why your skill dealt the damage that it did:
This screenshot is apparently alarmingly old! (It's from April 2021.)
Those were broken by some recent code changes, so repairing them was on my To Do List at a relatively low priority. I got around to it this week, thinking it'd take half an hour or less... only to realise there were some weird inaccuracies or inconsistencies in the damage calculation code - plus the code estimating damage was stupidly detached from the code actually determining it on skill use - so I ended up rewriting a lot of that code to unifying it all. Damage predictions and logs are much more accurate now to what's actually going on.
Here's what the log looks like now (you can show this by holding a button while selecting a turn):
Only damaging skills are logged. The old version used a lot of icons, and only showed percentages, but I felt that just using plain text for each effect was the clearest way to convey the information that this is meant to. At least a couple of people commented during the first alpha test about how it'd make more sense to show a number that changes according to each multiplier, so that's what's going on here. Each step is also coloured in a way that makes it clear at a glance where bonus effects or resistances are happening. Much clearer than what I had before, for sure!
I also slightly revised this predictor that shows while you're selecting a target as part of this process:
So what's left now before I can do another test run?
Writing
I need to review and iron out all the dialogue scenes that I already have, and in some cases completely rewrite - or write from scratch - some tutorial scenes. None of them are long or in-depth, but it'll take some time.
I also need to add descriptive lore text for figmon, skills, items, etc. That takes time too.
Maybe most importantly, I need to decide how this section of the story - which I'll likely release as a demo - ends. What I have from before - Pierce attacking with three wolf monster companions born of his impotent rage - no longer really makes sense. I have ideas how to tie it to the rest of what I have planned, but, again, I'll need to devote some time to it.
Particle and sound effects
I need to add these for most skills, and to menus for things like cursor movements. The game feels very unpolished and relatively lifeless without them, but it made no sense to add them before deciding on how everything works.
Blocking
Currently you can hold and release a button while executing skills to get the Rhythm bonus, but you can't react to incoming damage. I'll need to handle this differently, as damage is calculated at the moment the attack lands so I couldn't allow input that was slightly too late. I've had some vague ideas, but haven't sat down and really thought about it yet.
Items
I've added basic functionality for equippable items, but haven't added any yet. So I'll need to think of some and draw icons for them. I've also added a few chests that I'll need to fill with something that'd be worth collecting, but I'm not sure what. It seems like I should bring back some kind of basic expendable items system - not the potion-crafting thing I had a while back, but just like MARDEK or most JRPGs where you have a stock of basic healing potions etc - but only human characters could use them so I don't know whether they'd even be worth including at all. Hmm, I don't know. Another thing I'll need to devote some time to.
Some music
I need to add music for battles against Pierce. I already have a Pierce Battle track I'm really proud of, but it wouldn't work with the interactive 'Dynamusic' system that I have because it's too melodic. I tried to adapt it, without success, so I'll need to try again.
I also tried to compose music for the world map - not a huge thing, but having a track that plays as Collie wakes up after the nightmare intro feels important, and having it double up as the world map music seems practical - but I wasn't happy with it, so I either need to tweak or recompose that.
I'd like the elemental battles to have their own music too - a boss track, essentially - but that's not a high priority and I can postpone it for now.
Various miscellaneous bugs and tweaks
There are a bunch of these, most of which are things I've been putting off because I find them gruellingly unfun to trudge through. So I'm not looking forward to them, but they need to be done! Many should only take a few minutes, but some - like the ocean shader issue that randomly started last week - are just baffling and impossible to predict how long they'll take to complete.
Every week I feel closer than ever - and I'm certainly doing a lot every (week) day - but making a game alone is a monumental task, so, as always, patience is required.
There are a handful of non-game-dev tasks I've been putting off for ages, as I think I said last week, which are getting heavier on my mind the more I put them off. My parents are going away on yet another of their holidays next week, so maybe I'll take a day or two off myself to try to finally get some of those things out of the way. Things like deciding on what PC to get, finally! Ugh!! I'd love for that to be a thing I've done rather than something I know I need to do at some point. There are a bunch of messages and emails that I'd like to reply to as well, and I've still not built that Lego Harry Potter phoenix!! All of those things are surely equally important!!!
I don't want to take the whole week off though. Let's see how it goes.
Oh, I've also completed a few games I've been meaning to write about over the past few weeks: I replayed Memody: Sindrel Song, I finished Pokemon Brilliant Diamond (feels like ages ago), and I also replayed Vagrant Story, an old PS1 game from my childhood that hugely influenced my own work, on a whim. I'd like to write at least brief blog posts about them, but I never get around to it because I'm always too busy or mentally exhausted and it's hard to justify spending time on something only a couple of people will skim through. I do enjoy it for personal reasons though, so maybe I'll find the time. We'll see.
Speaking of Pokemon, Legends of Arceus was released today, right? I preordered it, and was planning to start that this evening. It's been frustrating being on Reddit and seeing critical comments about it over the past few months. Honestly I don't care what other people think of it and want to just experience it in isolation. I'll enjoy it for what it is rather than judging it for what it's not, just as I'd want people to approach my games.
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kidupiscean37~3Y
I love your idea of the coloured magical flames! And glad to know that you're getting closer and closer to the next playtest. Hope you'll be able to decide on and buy a new PC which can boost your mood and productivity
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Maniafig222~3Y
Making 16 maps in 2 hours is fast work, good to hear your editor is robust and convenient enough to get that whole map made in so little time!
It's interesting seeing stitched together maps for games with these chunky levels, it often reveals impossible or bizarre architecture and layouts that you normally wouldn't spot since they are much more disconnected in the actual game.
Too bad about the dropped ice cream cone idea, that wouldn't been amusing. I remember speculating for ideas of those kinds of blockades for a Clarence RPG since you needed them and coming up with amusing ideas. It's nice when games come up with some silly in-world explanation better than "well this fence would require me to jump and I can't do that".
I like the visuals here, looks pretty. Do these battles replace maelstroms, or do they exist in addition to maelstroms? Having them tied to an element makes them more interesting!
The element symbol appearing in the eye is neat, having that kind of iconography appear often is a neat detail, MARDEK did it too with its element symbols.
I think the opaque brown map is fine, I agree it looks better than the see-through one which kinda clashes with the retro-ey low-poly aesthetic.
That dex entry is making me view Rabbishes in a whole new light... I underestimated them.
I was one of the people asking to have the modifiers also show the current calculated damage! I think having that really helps visualize the damage drop-off and pop-off points in a calculation! It is pretty overwhelming though, like a big scary Excel sheet. Maybe it shouldn't show quite that many skills in a row? I can't imagine often wanting to see how the calculation for the tenth last skill was handled!
What does wakefulness do, exactly?
I look forward to the next beta test!
Also, I finished Memody: Sindrel Song! I got high scores on every track except Memody's which is super duper hard! I really liked the game overall, I think it's aged very well. I uploaded uncommentated footage of me scoring high on all the pieces, and me bumbling through the finale and ending! [LINK]
I found some of the bits really emotionally resonant, the whole theme of life being worth living, and the dialogues near the end of the game where everybody talks about why they chose to live.
I'm actually curious, the characters all have those rune glyphs on their heads... What do you think everybody's runes and elements are? I'll list my guesses and reasonings and doubts.
Memody: Sorrow, xfG
I think the only elements I could make sense of for Memody is either Sorrow or maybe a particularly and singularly self-destructive interpretation of Destruction. Probably the former though!
The G rune is self-evident, and I think she's in general a rather f-like person. The first rune was the hardest to pin down for me, I don't think her circumstances really pushed that rune to be developed very far in either direction.
Remedy: Bliss, rFx
I can't think of another element that would fit here, except a particularly healthy and compassionate expression of Sorrow perhaps.
I think Remedy's first rune would be on the realish side since she seems to be very rooted in the here and now, even with her imaginative streak. She's probably the most Feeling character in the cast! I don't think she's particularly jolly or grave otherwise.
Hammer: Courage, RTj
This one speaks for itself! A somewhat negative expressed way to be Courage, with thinking of himself above others and how that clashes with the other Wintrel and making him have to adjust to that.
The only one that I could budge on is the degree to which the j rune should be weighed, Hammer admits later on it is kind of a ridiculous façade he puts up and he can be pretty grumpy at times.
Dhurge: Sorrow, afG
Another one that seems pretty self-evident, maybe there's an argument to be made for Fear though?
The runes here all seem pretty easy to figure out, maybe some of them should be more or less pronounced.
Vivace: Creation, xtJ
Vivace is like the ur-example of Creation, I don't think a case can be made for anything else.
I could have Vivace lean more on the R side, perhaps her approach to music is a very R-esque approach to a typically abstract concept. Or maybe not! Jolly is very self-evident! I did pick t for her though, but I wonder how correct that is.
Course: Fear, xxg
Probably the hardest one to pin down! I could see her element be Sorrow or Creation instead, but I get the impression it's a healthy manifestation of Fear instead, a lot of her dialogue is about contemplating past mistakes and whether or not to take opportunities, I think it's a very Fear-like sort of contemplativeness?
Her runes are even harder to figure out! I feel pretty confident about g though, the others just don't seem to swing hard any other way. It's hard to get a read of the middle rune since most characters wouldn't have a need to be anything but f-like to Memody given the circumtances.
Hearth: Bliss, Afg
I suppose there could be an argument here for a very positive and healthy spin on Destruction for Hearth instead of Bliss. His whole life's purpose was to redefine what it means to live and to challenge what he sees as a horrible status quo, which would be interesting and also mean there's a character for every element. Perhaps he mellowed out a lot thanks to his age and being with Vivace? Who knows? You do! Please tell me!!
I think Hearth would be the most A-aligned person in the cast, he's always wondering about grand concepts such as person hood and whatnot, and doesn't find much joy in discussing the practicalities of life, since he regards Sindrel life as a pitiable cycle. I think f and g are pretty self-evident!
I'm wondering how these match up with what you had in mind!
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Tobias 1115~3Y
I appreciate your comments and have been meaning to reply to them and feel bad about not doing, but annoyingly I don't have the mental energy to check out some things you linked to or probably to reply to everything! I did want to at least comment on some things though:
These elemental battle things do replace maelstroms; seems pointless having both!
Wakefulness currently acts as a combined damage modifier and status effect: when at maximum, in the 'Mania' state - which I feel weird about using for the name but it's appropriate! - you deal and receive double damage, and also take damage at the start of your turn, like poison; when at minimum, you take and deal half damage and have a 1 in 3 chance of 'dozing off' and skipping turns, like Pokemon's Paralysis (interestingly, Legends of Arceus seems to have changed Sleep to function like this too). It's also used for speed, and I wonder if this'll be too much stuff! I'm very open to changing it based on what people thing during the next test run.
Re sindrel runes: I'm glad you'd even wonder about them! (Also that you replayed the game!) The glyphs on their heads are representations of their runes, but I think I decided on them before I really knew the characters? They also only show capital-letter runes, and no x values, which isn't very nuanced. I'll load up the game to have a look what they are on the models...
Memody seems to be AFJ?? Well that's not accurate! I think it's because those would fit the Glimmer character she was originally? xfG seems a much better fit! I might even say aFG or AFG?
Hearth's got ATG. I'd definitely say G rather than g, but I'm inclined to say x rather than T or f for the middle rune. I have a vague memory about maybe writing each of the characters to represent a single rune, and his was A, because his role is presenting an alternative reality? I'm not sure though.
Remedy's got RFJ. She's obviously F - if I did have each one represent a rune, she'd be that one - and I'd agree with your x instead of J. r seems better than R; she spent a chunk of her life in fantasy stories, after all!
Hammer's got RTJ, which is what I used for a while as the 'generic choleric/sanguine' kind of personality. RTj is more nuanced! I'm assuming he represents T!
Duhrge seems to be RTG?? That's way off! afG is a much better fit! He represents G.
Vivace's got AFJ, but I'd say she's more t than F - or maybe x - and she probably blends together A and R, so x works. As I go through these, I'm realising I probably did intend them to represent a single rune each, with her as J.
Course has RFG. She was meant to represent R - yes, I remember now! - in that she had a 'normal life', but the way I wrote her ended up more A-ish because I'm very Abstract myself and not a good enough writer to completely get out of that perspective! I'd say she seems more x than F - or maybe f, actually - but I feel a strong G is more fitting than G.
As for elements, since sindrels were originally imagined as inhabitants of the Sorrow petal, most of them are varying degrees of Sorrow, probably? I can't remember if I gave it much thought though (but then again I'd forgotten I meant them to represent runes until I started writing this).
I'd say Duhrge and Course are obviously Sorrow, though I can see what you mean about Course being Fear! Hammer as Courage and Vivace as Creation seem clearly accurate, and I like the idea of Hearth as Destruction because his whole thing is not accepting the status quo, while Bliss is all about acceptance. It's difficult to not see Bliss as just Light or Good, such that everyone positive must be it; I keep doing that myself!
Memody is an interesting case, because it's her daemon that's responsible for the thoughts that could be considered Destruction, but is she her daemon? Hmm! I'd say Sorrow for her though just because it feels most fitting that a game about Alora Fane's Sorrow race would have a Sorrow protagonist! (Plus I wrote the thing while in a pit of depression, so...)
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septet8~3Y
This looks really cool, I agree that splitting the dungeon up into square rooms adds a nice structure. Maybe you could mix in some rectangular/larger rooms too to make it more interesting? I think the lore UI is great. I'm glad you are making so much progress.
Some criticism: the flashing in the water is distracting and the battle log screen really just looks like a bunch of numbers to me still, I think something simpler would be preferable even if information was left out. Also, sometimes this website's pages take too long to load because of embedded media.
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Tobias 1115~3Y
I think I mentioned the water flashing is a bug? It's certainly not meant to do that!
The battle log is the sort of thing that'd be overwhelming to new players but useful to players who'd become familiar with the mechanics, I'm assuming. It's not unlocked until you've been playing for a bit. Mostly it'd be read by looking at the colours and then the numbers for more detail.
I've been wondering whether to move the blog else where things might load more quickly, but that's not a trivial thing...
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