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Counselling Class 3 & What's Wrong With Me
8 months ago1,967 words
The third class of this Counselling skills course didn't go as badly as I dreaded it might, mostly due to revising my expectations. Also, a brief account of exactly why I've been trapped in a pit, and which mental conditions I believe I do or don't have.

I spent all of yesterday anxiously dreading the third session of this counselling course, due to the pain of not fitting in the previous times. I kept wondering whether to just drop out, maybe try again the next time it ran in a few months. Try to improve some other stuff in the meantime.

I felt I might as well force myself to go this time though, at least to speak with the tutor face-to-face about not continuing and what my options might be. I'd also had some nice but brief interactions with a receptionist the other times - she remembered my name and seemed happy to see me - so I was at least curious to know whether that was just her being nice in her role or something beyond that.

When I arrived, she wasn't there, though - there was a different receptionist instead - so... oh well. Equal parts disappointment and relief, I suppose, though neither very strongly.

That meant I was early again, and got a chance to talk with the tutor in the classroom before the others arrived. I talked about my reservations, what could happen next, etc... but said I'd at least give this third session a try and see how it goes.

And it didn't go that badly, actually! I think I got enough value out of it to keep going.



The biggest cause of the pain from the previous couple of sessions was unrealistic expectations. I've been alone for a long time, and desperately hoped that I'd be able to find some local friend - or more - who'd be able to make the loneliness go away. When I got the impression nobody there could be that person, I was devastated. "This means I'll be alone forever!!"

Maybe it was a symptom of the instant gratification we're all essentially programmed to expect these days.

I don't know what it was, or when or how it happened, but my thoughts and expectations seem to have shifted. Now, I'm not expecting lasting connection from this, just exposure to the world beyond the pit I've been in for ages. Meeting that expectation is far more realistic.

I suppose going from one state - isolation - to a drastically different one was never going to be an instant or smooth transition, and the despair I've experienced and written about over the past couple of weeks came from the rockiness of that transition.

I get the feelings our positions in the class are mostly established at this point, and I'm still the outsider. I doubt anyone will be going out of their way to talk to me. I did a discussion task with a woman next to me (after she looked desperately to her other side for a better option), who was married with children and whose name I don't recall, and it was okay, I suppose. Not horrendously strained and awkward, but not something I imagine either of us wanted to pursue outside that narrow setting either.

We've yet to actually practise being counsellors, which will involve three of us going in a room and taking turns being the listener, speaker, or assessor. I'll be curious to see if that alters the dynamics at all.



I also actually enjoy the content of the course; it's not like it's irrelevant or uninteresting to me and I'm just there to meet people. I got top grades while getting my Psychology degree for a reason.

I feel I know more than the tutor (who's younger than me) in some ways though, and I've been speaking up a lot more than I ever did in classes in the past because of that (it helps that it's a small cosy room with a class of about a dozen rather than a huge lecture theatre with hundreds). I'm concerned that I'm coming across as an obnoxious know-it-all though.

(To direct your assumptions a bit, it's less "um, *akshually*..." and more "ooh, I know this!" (when he asks a question and nobody else speaks up). Overly enthusiastic rather than condescending correcting.)

One example is that he talked about AI - specifically Pi - at some point, and I was the only one in the class who'd even heard of it, so I quite eagerly spoke up about my experiences conversing with it and how I found it both moving and concerning.

I can't remember whether or not I already talked about this in a previous post - it's all been a bit of a blur recently - but there's a symptom of social anxiety called post-event rumination, where much of the pain comes after the event rather than during. I was anxious all day before the class, but that anxiety subsided as soon as I left the house and hasn't returned since (I suppose it's similar to the anticipation I imagine a sprinter might feel while waiting for the starting gun). While there, I was okay; I made some social missteps, faux pas, but recognised them and was able to shrug them off in the moment. Now that I'm home, though, they're all coming to mind over and over, haunting me, painfully.

I know that nobody else will be dwelling on my social ineptitude. I have to actively search my memories to try and remember anything anyone else said, and there's nothing I judge harshly. There's a quote (of apparently uncertain origin) along the lines of "you'd worry less about what people think about you when you realize how seldom they do". Still, the thoughts come up, and they strike at the heart, the feelings, rather than being some cerebral consideration to logically assess.

That's a symptom of a disease rather than something I choose or want, like how if you have a cold, you don't exactly decide to have a runny nose. It causes you distress whether you like it or not, and there's not all that much you can do other than wait for it to run its course (though not a perfect analogy since you can take easily-obtainable medication to relieve cold symptoms).



Speaking of disease, my previous posts and several of the comments on them have focused on what specific mental issues might be to blame for my recent distress. I wanted to write some post I could pin - and link people to when it inevitably comes up in future - going into detail about exactly what my own self-assessment might look like, though I want my feelings about interacting with a group of strangers for the first time in years to settle down a bit first.

I want to at least write a very brief bullet-point account of things here though:


- I spent my childhood living in squalor with my severely neglectful father, and missed out on much important ∞ socialisation ∞ - essentially 'well-adjustedness training' - as a result. Children are wont to reject their poorly-socialised peers - an infection-preventative measure from tribal times, perhaps - and as a result I was an outcast. My father was perpetually unemployed, so 'going to work every day' wasn't a fact of life baked into my mind as it would be for most children (witnessing it being a part of a parent's life - not your own - is enough to make the mental mark).

- I made Flash games in my teens using self-taught skills, and the MARDEK games in particular blew up in popularity. I was scared of getting a job, so I used this ostensible success to convince myself and my parents that I could just make stuff from my bedroom instead of pushing through the anxiety and getting my crucial first employment experiences.

- I spent years in my bedroom alone working on games and maintaining Fig Hunter, which attracted an increasingly toxic audience I was too poorly-adjusted to deal with healthily. I experienced a lot of people - the volume is really the most important factor - trying to hurt me in various ways, some alarmingly tenaciously. This scared me off socialising online for a long time; I'm still struggling with that, and I'm always on guard.

- The last time I went out into the world was when I went to uni between 2015 and 2018. The closest connection I formed there grew toxic, and I'm still enduring the traumatic fallout of that (I still have nightmares about it often). I also found out I had - and then later had major surgery for - brain cancer, literally my worst fear come true.

- Then I isolated for years, and my experiences of life became increasingly detached from those of others.


∞ The About page on this site ∞ which I wrote a couple of years ago is basically a mini-autobiography that goes into this stuff in more detail. (Also, I should update that at some point. My Patreon page's description, too.)


Hopefully you can imagine how those life experiences would lead to a lot of the problems that plague and hinder me. It's what I meant by 'pathologising circumstance' in a previous post; most of my issues are a result of external rather than internal factors.


In terms of actual nameable mental health conditions, I certainly have social anxiety, but I think I also have Avoidant Personality Disorder, which I understand to be its more severe form (though there seems to be a lot of varying interpretations of it in the relevant Reddit community).

I sporadically experience depression, but as a result of specific circumstances, unlike people with clinical depression who experience it despite favourable circumstances.

I don't have autism; I don't struggle with interpreting nonverbal cues, or metaphors, I've never stimmed or had a meltdown, I don't have any special interests (in the sense that people with autism typically do), and I'm not great with technical details. ∞ On this autism test I just found ∞, I got a score of 10/30 ("few tendencies"; "you experience very few signs of autism and are probably not autistic"), mostly due to things that also fall into the domains of introversion (prefer to do things alone) or social anxiety (get anxious about meeting new people).

I have trouble concentrating sometimes, but that can be blamed on isolation and the depression and stress that come with that - plus literal surgery and radioactive bombardment of my brain can't have helped - without any need to invoke ADHD. I never had trouble concentrating in school as a child (though I rarely went to school due to the neglect). ∞ On the ADHD test on that same website ∞, I got a score of 15/48 ("Your results are not consistent with ADHD").



I'm hoping that if I keep going to these classes, I'll be able to shed some of the spider webs that have grown over me during this period of world-avoidance. The other, not-dissimilar evening class I did a decade ago led to me going to uni soon after, so maybe this one will lead to something similar. We'll see.

For now, I'm getting the impression that the worst part of the readjustment might be behind me... but I'll have to try again next week and see. Maybe all the despair and anxiety will come flowing back in the days to come!!

Also, I really want to write a post about all the work I've been doing on Dreamons!

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Laprilla14~8M
So I don't know if it's helpful, annoying, or neutral that I keep commenting so frequently, so please let me know if you want me to stop or something. ^_^' I thought maybe a comment is nicer than no comment, but I don't see most people commenting super frequently, so I'm second-guessing myself.

Firstly, I think it's cool that you're sticking with the class even though it's difficult. I wouldn't blame you for dropping it and trying your luck in the next one either since the ladies in this one are not very welcoming. I do think they should be better at dealing with people who suffer from issues that would lead them to seek counseling in the first place, but maybe they just don't know better or they can't help it.

The weirdos and outcasts are out there. Granted, just being outcasts alone doesn't mean we instantly become best friends once meeting each other, but it's nice to at least be accepted by a group of people for who we are and allowed to peacefully exist together. My take anyway. And friendships can potentially develop from that point.

Come to think of it, my childhood best friend was also an outcast. I was in a group that I didn't like because I knew I had to suppress myself in order to be accepted in it, and my friend had no group whatsoever because everyone rejected her. It turned out she had an abusive and neglectful home life, and even the teachers tried to separate her from other kids because of her lack of good social development.

I liked her better than anyone else because she seemed more real. Maybe I felt I could be myself around her. And we turned out to have a lot in common as well, in spite of our base personalities being kind of opposite. We're still friends today. Not that we talk all the time, but we stay in touch, and I think it's partly helpful just knowing she's there still even if we aren't talking all the time. She has her own life to live, and I guess I do too. ^_^'

In any case, I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do. And also it would be cool to hear about your game development as well.
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Tobias 1115~8M
I definitely appreciate comments, and kind ones never annoy me. I only feel a bit bad that I'm not better at replying, though I hope the times that I do - or if I address things you've said in later blog posts - make up for how sporadic I can be.

I'm assuming most of the ostracising is subconscious, they don't even realise they're doing it. Though you would hope for better from people hoping to help the mentally ill! I get the impression that if any of them have endured issues, they were probably things like work or relationship stresses which are very different from my own. I also know it'd be different if I were also female, like all of them are.

I know exactly the sort of person I'd get along with, and it's why it was initially so painful that such a person wasn't in this course. If they had been, I would have jumped at the chance to try to make something blossom from that, but so much of it is just chance. Who fate has decided you happen to be with in this group or at this place. How many of your connections are down to luck, being put together in the right place at the right time? I get the feeling for most people the answer to that would probably be "all of them", or at least most. The connections I made with compatible people at uni were all about luck.

Having that shared life experience is important, too, and I know that moving around a lot has robbed me of that. You're lucky to have someone who's been there for such a significant chunk of your life. Those only come once a lifetime.
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Laprilla14~8M
I don't mind you not replying to comments. I appreciate any response, but I don't expect any. It's nice that you go to the trouble to engage with your audience.

I was also thinking that being a woman would help you to integrate better considering the group you landed in is all women. There are some guys who manage to have a lot of female friends, but I don't know how they manage do that. It's usually just really comfortable to be around them (I've met a few guys like that as a lady myself).

Yes, I'm lucky. ^_^ Not that every experience in our friendship was a good one, but I have a lot of good memories from being her friend, and her still being there now is really nice.
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astralwolf92~8M
Given that mental health conditions can hamper insight, and the trend of people self diagnoses being wrong, why hasn’t a formal diagnosis or treatment plan been attempted?
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Tobias 1115~8M
I wrote in a post not too long ago about my latest attempt to seek a diagnosis, which went nowhere. The closest I've come in the past was with someone who diagnosed me with social anxiety but had to google Avoidant Personality Disorder as she'd never heard of it. Where would *you* suggest I look to get diagnosed?
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astralwolf92~8M
I’d make an appointment with a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist, and get second or third opinions as necessary? I don’t know who you’ve seen, but it would be unsurprising to me that a GP or generic therapist would be unfamiliar with these!

Edit: I scrolled back and saw you had counselling with a clinical psychologist, I’m wondering why that progress along that treatment path stopped?
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MontyCallay101~8M
Good to hear you were able to go this week! There's undoubtedly a luck-based component to all that, so your disappointment makes sense to some extent. It does put it into perspective that this was the first time you'd been with a group of strangers in years, so I can see how that would be jarring! Unfortunately, a lot of "putting yourself out there" is about maximising your surface area in regards to that kind of luck, which can be annoying. I wouldn't be too down on your lack of socialisation as a child - social skills can be learned and improved upon even if it takes a while, just like most other skills.

There's an entire class of medications known as anxiolytics [LINK] that are used medically to alleviate anxiety symptoms. I remember your general reservations towards that kind of treatment, but it could be potentially something to aid specifically with these post-event anxiety episodes, which seem quite debilitating. You'd probably want to directly seek diagnosis and treatment from a psychiatrist of some kind - you might need a referral from your GP, which takes time etc. but could be worth it if you end up not having to lose hours or days to suffering after minor events like that.

Anyway, here's hoping that you don't need that and the worst in that regard is over - looking forward to seeing the post on Dreamons!
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DeNovo4~8M
I know that pain. One time, I was in undergrad, and my friends (people who lived nearby and had basically adopted me into their friend group, even though I didn't feel that strongly) were all right outside my door, getting ready to go to dinner. They were standing around, asking each other "is this everyone?" "Did we forget anyone?" right outside my door. It was pretty funny to me that they'd forgotten me right outside my door (when I joined them later they realized and apologized), but it definitely cemented the lack of connection I shared with them in my mind, and that hurt the more I thought about it.

I've always felt most alone in large groups, when I have no one to talk to. It's horrible and makes me want to leave.

Recognizing that this is normal, and forming positive connections with people who think differently and have different expectations (non neurodivergent people who haven't just compiled a "socially acceptable interactions flowchart" to guide them through casual chatter) was and is hard for me. People who have to talk to me for work seem to like me. People who have to talk to me because we're enjoying a common activity seem to like me too. But I have friends who can make friends quickly (they call it networking), and I am definitely the opposite of that.

Just putting yourself out there will definitely help. When I finally started looking comfortable, and interested in making connections with others, others could tell. I wasn't any less awkward, I was just looking forward to having positive (if meaninglessly shallow) interactions with strangers, and it was almost as if they knew and were seeking the same thing. I definitely made new friends that way, as they become more comfortable sharing their own awkwardness with me. (They all seemed so normal, but they were almost all just hiding their personality.)

I hope you continue to grow and improve. It definitely looks like you're working hard, and I would say that it's already paying off.
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LotBlind53~7M
What about for the pinned FAQ, even making a super-snappy summary up top like "Autism - unlikely; ADHS - probably not..." or whatever seems the most appropriate.

*hugz* <3
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